![]() He was no longer able to issue proclamations from the South Lawn or come out into the driveway and talk to reporters every day, which he would want to do. He lost an important series of platforms in a one, two, three punch. Why do you think he wanted to talk to you?ĬAROL LEONNIG: You know, I think the answer is right in front of our faces. He's actually one of the very few people on the record in this book. "I Alone Can Fix It" is the title of their chronicle of the final year of Trump's presidency.Ĭarol, president - former President Trump would not give you an interview for the last book. KELLY: Well, as you can hear, we have got Phil Rucker and Carol Leonnig back on the line because they have got an update - a new book. ![]() And time again, we saw that Trump put his personal and political fortunes ahead of the country that he was elected to lead. And what we saw and what Carol and I reported in this - these deeper interviews for our new book is that the characteristics of President Trump's management style that were so evident from Day 1 - his mismanagement, his chaos, his cruelty - they had downright deadly consequences in this fourth and final year because of the pandemic. And that, of course, was the arrival of the coronavirus pandemic. You know, the beginning of 2020, Trump faced his first true crisis. RUCKER: And how real that was, Mary Louise. KELLY: Phil Rucker, a possibility those characteristics will come to the fore. ![]() And there's a possibility, of course, that as we get closer to the November election, some of those characteristics will come into the fore. PHILIP RUCKER: When he feels up against a wall and under siege, we've seen him again and again lash out, do sometimes self-destructive actions. He said, no, probably not, except if the president was feeling under siege. And I ended our book interview asking whether the fourth year of that presidency was likely to look much different from what had come before. They had a book out about the first three years of the Trump presidency, which was all we had at that point. So much has happened since - I sat down with two of Washington's most seasoned political reporters, Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker of The Washington Post. In January of 2020 - a lifetime ago, it feels like.
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